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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at The Silver Dollar Fair on 1968-11-01
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- 1968-11-01 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Live concert
- Collection
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- DeadLists Project
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- 430.4M
Alligator-> Drums-> Alligator-> Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks), Dark Star-> Cryptical Envelopment-> Drums-> The Other One-> Cryptical Envelopment-> New Potato Caboose, We Bid You Good Night
Notes
Caveat:
--From 0:36 in New Potato through the Alligator reprise, the quality drops off severely due to extremely low recording levels. Edits were made to raise the volume and reduce the hiss levels, which dominated the barely audible music. This portion was taken from the J. Powell/J. Barnes SHN seed and patched into a different SBD>MR>C>D>CD source---a source that has somewhat more noticeable hiss, though there are no significant raspy distortions that can be noticed on the MSR>R>D>CD source.
Notes:
--splice in New Potato at 0:36 (where the quality severely drops)
--most of New Potato is missing
--Alligator cuts in with a minute or two missing
--there are probably a number of minutes missing after the Alligator reprise.
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- 2004-06-25 15:49:03
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- 1
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- 1
- Identifier
- gd68-11-01.sbd.cotsman.18100.sbeok.shnf
- Lineage
- SBD > MR > C > D > CD > EAC > SHN
- Location
- Chico, CA
- Shndiscs
- 1
- Source
- Soundboard
- Transferred by
- David Litfin, Jim Powell, J. Barnes, and JCotsman
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- The Silver Dollar Fair
- Year
- 1968
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Reviews
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Reviewer:
Magichord
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June 5, 2020 (edited)
Subject: Unbelievable!!
Subject: Unbelievable!!
This is one utterly amazing dark horse of a show. Yes, it's a damn shame that the sound quality plummets right after New Potato starts, but my God, what
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survives here, the Other One, is...words fail me, but I'll try...friggin' monumental. Astonishing. Mind-boggling. The most ferocious performance of TOO I've EVER heard, and I've been a fan since '69, so I've heard a ton of versions. The creative interplay between Lesh and Garcia is off-the-charts brilliant. Absolutely breathtaking. And I was totally straight when I heard it. It's a shame that Bobby's guitar is mostly somehow buried in the mix, though no, I'm not complaining! That the first half or so of this performance survived is a treasure, a gift from the gods of music.
This is a Cryptical>TOO you should crank up for anyone who thinks JG was a mediocre guitar player. I've heard that line repeatedly from people who don't know beans about the Dead, who've never really listened to much of them. Anyway, stream this on a good desktop system and let yourself be blown away on the wind of a cryptic envelopment.
Oh, and the good sonics show up again with Caution> Feedback> Goodnight, And that's definately worth hearing.
This is a Cryptical>TOO you should crank up for anyone who thinks JG was a mediocre guitar player. I've heard that line repeatedly from people who don't know beans about the Dead, who've never really listened to much of them. Anyway, stream this on a good desktop system and let yourself be blown away on the wind of a cryptic envelopment.
Oh, and the good sonics show up again with Caution> Feedback> Goodnight, And that's definately worth hearing.
Reviewer:
chris phillips
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May 5, 2013 (edited)
Subject: gone goodbye
Subject: gone goodbye
This Other One specifically is a classic.
Reviewer:
clementinescaboose
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August 11, 2011 (edited)
Subject: damn damn damn
Subject: damn damn damn
If only this recording weren't so degraded, I'm sure this would be held in close regard to the other monsters of fall '68. Dark Star, Other One>Crytical
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are absolutely killer (but not *quite* as great as either 10/12 or 10/13 imho). Everything else after the start of NPC is un-listenable garbage, but I still have to give a 4 because of the greatness of these cuts.
Reviewer:
peasant
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April 11, 2011
Subject: Peace. It's about the music
Subject: Peace. It's about the music
Wow. People need to get off their high horse. First, whether one is liberal or conservative, Christian, Jew, or athiest....it doesn't matter here. It's
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about the music. The Grateful Dead wove many strands of various traditions into their unique music. As a result, they brought all kinds of people together to share in their music. So, listen to the music play, OK? No one is a better head than the next guy just becI didn't get on the bus until 1982; I was only 4 years old when this show was played. Does that make me less of a fan? I don't think so.
That said, what we have here is a look at the first peak performing period: late 68 through spring 69. The band had developed some musical "maturity" after about 4 to 5 years of playing together. The height of their psychedelic mayhem is being reached during this period. Mid 69 would see them transitioning their sound as the "Workingman's Dead" songs start making their way into the repertoire and the "cowboy/folk-Dead" sound starts to emerge. But for this time, it is insane, trippy stuff. Gotta love it. Thanks to all who makes these recordings available.
That said, what we have here is a look at the first peak performing period: late 68 through spring 69. The band had developed some musical "maturity" after about 4 to 5 years of playing together. The height of their psychedelic mayhem is being reached during this period. Mid 69 would see them transitioning their sound as the "Workingman's Dead" songs start making their way into the repertoire and the "cowboy/folk-Dead" sound starts to emerge. But for this time, it is insane, trippy stuff. Gotta love it. Thanks to all who makes these recordings available.
Reviewer:
stark dar
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January 30, 2011
Subject: Believe It!!
Subject: Believe It!!
The Dead provided a space and time for us all to groove and be free, regardless of anything! Keep your political insecurities out of it. That anyone would
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use this forum as a pulpit or a shoebox is sad! You missed the point and its all over now baby blue. The Dead were the doormen and they opened the door for us. Be consumed by your egos somewhere else. Aint no time to hate!!!
Reviewer:
micah6vs8
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August 3, 2010 (edited)
Subject: Hello , This is 1968 GD
Subject: Hello , This is 1968 GD
Hey ,
several of you fools below . This is a place where we review shows . I'm not sure where that general concept failed to reach you . You want to do ... this silliness , find a forum and go nuts . Or do it in an '86 or '92 year show review were no one will be subjected to your opinions . No one else cares about them .
This is '68 GD and we don't fuck around here . This is the primal core . This is for people who can handle the trip . Looks like maybe it's too heavy for various sensibilities . Which is fine . You should know how deep the water is before you dive into the deep end .
This source I would pass on . Half the sound sucks , and so do the ' reviews ' . The Powell / Barnes SBD above has necessarily 'edited ' out the unlistenable parts . Sadly . I hate losing a second of this year .
But , what is this ? Powell & Barnes have fixed a bit more of Caution ! Let there be rejoicing in the land . We have minutes added . So please go there .
Except for some of you . For those others , might I suggest LSP or Deadhook , or anywhere . Go bother them for awhile . We have met our quota of you wasting are time with your stupidity .
several of you fools below . This is a place where we review shows . I'm not sure where that general concept failed to reach you . You want to do ... this silliness , find a forum and go nuts . Or do it in an '86 or '92 year show review were no one will be subjected to your opinions . No one else cares about them .
This is '68 GD and we don't fuck around here . This is the primal core . This is for people who can handle the trip . Looks like maybe it's too heavy for various sensibilities . Which is fine . You should know how deep the water is before you dive into the deep end .
This source I would pass on . Half the sound sucks , and so do the ' reviews ' . The Powell / Barnes SBD above has necessarily 'edited ' out the unlistenable parts . Sadly . I hate losing a second of this year .
But , what is this ? Powell & Barnes have fixed a bit more of Caution ! Let there be rejoicing in the land . We have minutes added . So please go there .
Except for some of you . For those others , might I suggest LSP or Deadhook , or anywhere . Go bother them for awhile . We have met our quota of you wasting are time with your stupidity .
Reviewer:
Jim F
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July 1, 2010 (edited)
Subject: Well...
Subject: Well...
originally posted 6/29:...hopefully no one will read that garbage because they will be smart and head on over to the other version/s of this one that have
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more of the Caution (Kaplan 20008 for example). Jerry's fanned intro is as good as they get, and I love that little piece they do starting at 5:40 of track 6...
7/4/10 edit: Lol too funny! I never said whose post was garbage, I was just directing people to the other source that I prefer. I never said anything about my political affiliation or anything about telling anyone what to do aside from recommending a different source. Your reviews don't bother me, I find them entertaining, actually.
7/4/10 edit: Lol too funny! I never said whose post was garbage, I was just directing people to the other source that I prefer. I never said anything about my political affiliation or anything about telling anyone what to do aside from recommending a different source. Your reviews don't bother me, I find them entertaining, actually.
Reviewer:
salforddude
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June 29, 2010
Subject: Astounding Sounds Amazing Music
Subject: Astounding Sounds Amazing Music
Im truly astonished anyone can remember what a show was like 40 years ago. I saw the Dead once, and its a blur. Mind you, so is every time iv seen most
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bands. It is all about the music man though... I have an iPod full of Grateful Dead stuff and this will be going on it.
Reviewer:
L. Rosley
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June 29, 2010
Subject: Average show marred by poor tape quality and droppout
Subject: Average show marred by poor tape quality and droppout
This was probably a 4-star show (one set, actually), with a top-notch Dark Start and an average Other One. But alas, the middle of the recording is just
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about unlistenable starting at the beginning or New Potato, then cuts out altogether. It picks up after Alligator has begun, but still with very poor quality. There’s a long, not particularly interesting, drum solo, and then back into a not-very-interesting Alligator-like bit. The Caution is better, but the tape drops out. It picks back at the end of Caution, back at normal tape quality. The feedback is good here, followed by Good Night, a great combination of this period.
Note that there are versions of this show here at Archive.org with the poor-quality segment removed.
Historically interesting, but there are plenty of intact, late 1968/early 1969 shows here at Archive.org.
Note that there are versions of this show here at Archive.org with the poor-quality segment removed.
Historically interesting, but there are plenty of intact, late 1968/early 1969 shows here at Archive.org.
Reviewer:
oh_uh_um_ah
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February 9, 2009 (edited)
Subject: ... The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live On Stage" November 1, 1968 at the Silver Dollar Fair, Chico, CA, U.S.A.
Subject: ... The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live On Stage" November 1, 1968 at the Silver Dollar Fair, Chico, CA, U.S.A.
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#############__Smokin'_1968 GRATEFUL DEAD Show.
Don't bother with New Potato Caboose-Alligator-Drums-Alligator. The recording is absolutely ... worthless. It is "Unlistenable". Go from "Cryptical Envelopment" right to "Caution", unless you are a freak.
I recommend this show to collectors of 1968 GRATEFUL DEAD. I call it a "Must Have" show, except for the aforementioned tracks.
I prefer the sound of this show compared to the others on the Internet Archive.
5 Stars for the mix
3 Stars for the recording
5 Stars for the Performance
5 Stars for the Transfer.
I recommend using EQ on this show to improve the sound. I use RealPlayer's free 3 band EQ for playback while downloading. Window's Media Player has a 10 Band EQ that dials in the sound even better for playback.
Classic 1968 sound.
Eat, Drink, Be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks for the love.
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#############__Smokin'_1968 GRATEFUL DEAD Show.
Don't bother with New Potato Caboose-Alligator-Drums-Alligator. The recording is absolutely ... worthless. It is "Unlistenable". Go from "Cryptical Envelopment" right to "Caution", unless you are a freak.
I recommend this show to collectors of 1968 GRATEFUL DEAD. I call it a "Must Have" show, except for the aforementioned tracks.
I prefer the sound of this show compared to the others on the Internet Archive.
5 Stars for the mix
3 Stars for the recording
5 Stars for the Performance
5 Stars for the Transfer.
I recommend using EQ on this show to improve the sound. I use RealPlayer's free 3 band EQ for playback while downloading. Window's Media Player has a 10 Band EQ that dials in the sound even better for playback.
Classic 1968 sound.
Eat, Drink, Be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks for the love.
Reviewer:
Cliff Hucker
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August 25, 2007 (edited)
Subject: Cryptical reprise...
Subject: Cryptical reprise...
Sick!
Shame the sound deteriorates so, this would be a monster!
Shame the sound deteriorates so, this would be a monster!
Reviewer:
mikeoberg
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August 17, 2005
Subject: Garcia absolutely wails
Subject: Garcia absolutely wails
The Other One shreds the place to pieces. This was heavy metal back in '68...
Reviewer:
Chris U.
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June 8, 2005
Subject: great mix for tube amp harmonics
Subject: great mix for tube amp harmonics
This is a very nice show and the board has an interesting mix where Jerry is in the foreground so that you can hear the analog feedback and harmonics from
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his guitar as if your head was pressed up to his amp.
A great way to explore this aspect of Garcia's and/or Bear's genius.
A great way to explore this aspect of Garcia's and/or Bear's genius.
Reviewer:
copperdomebodhi
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December 4, 2004
Subject: Sharp and intense
Subject: Sharp and intense
Wish we had the whole thing, but there are plenty of goodies left to be heard. This night offered a great balance between the intensity the band had in
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1968 and the polish they had in 1969. And that feedback is especially sweet.
Reviewer:
TimePilot
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November 1, 2004
Subject: Rough Patch
Subject: Rough Patch
Definitely a rough spot from Alligator to Alligator Reprise. Yet, a powerful show throughout and I agree with the thoughtful Feedback. Nice.
Reviewer:
Mike Ashenfelder
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October 21, 2004
Subject: Feedback
Subject: Feedback
A very pretty and thoughtful version of "Feedback."
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